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Classics department could face merger

Small department may need to be combined to survive budget cuts

By Derby Cox

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Published: Monday, November 9, 2009

Updated: Monday, November 9, 2009

The classics department may be merged with another department as part of the university’s ongoing push to cut costs and increase efficiency in the face of severe state budget cuts.

The move could insulate the department, which houses three undergraduate majors and a popular Greek and Roman mythology class, from reductions that would devastate a small department but could be weathered by a larger one, arts and humanities college officials said. But classics Chair Hugh Lee feared the department could lose some of its independence.

“In some ways I have a little bit of sadness because I think the classics department is now in its golden age, and the faculty are very active nationally and internationally,” Lee said. “In an ideal world, I think we’d like to stay independent.”

Lee said he believed the department was targeted for a possible merger because it is small and does not offer a doctorate. The department includes 40 undergraduate students and about a dozen graduate students.

A merger might be necessary to protect small departments such as classics from a bleak budgetary future, arts and humanities college Dean James Harris said.

“Part of it is looking to the future. In other words, ... we’re trying to position units to put them in the best situation to cope with the future, and the future doesn’t look good right now budgetarily, and it’s especially true of small units,” Harris said. “Can they survive on their own?”

A merger could save money on operating costs by pooling resources like paper, copiers and telephone service, Harris said, and by reducing the number of staff members. For example, one secretary could serve two combined departments. While Harris doesn’t plan to lay off any staff at the moment, vacant faculty and staff positions may go unfilled, he said.

Lee said he hoped the classics department would be able to keep the same number of students after the merger, but many details about the structure of the new department would need to be worked out. How many classes would every faculty member be expected to teach in a merged department? Who would be responsible for sitting on various university governing bodies?

“There’s no clear model for this kind of merger that I know of,” Lee said. “But I think we would probably have to give up some of our resources — some of our budget would have to go over to the larger unit.”

No final decision has been made on whether to merge the classics department, Harris said. The college is also considering merging the African American studies, American studies, women’s studies and LGBT studies programs. Across the university, departments are being forced to offer fewer and larger courses because of declining university fundraising and $86.2 million in state budget cuts over the past two years.

There is no timetable to make a decision, Harris said. It is unclear which department classics could merge with, although Lee said he has already talked with the English department and the languages, literatures and cultures school.

Lee said he hoped the academic quality of the department can be maintained.

“When Maryland talks about its peer universities ... they all have free-standing classics departments,” he said. “I think we’ve over the years tried to build up a department; even though we don’t have a Ph.D., our teaching and our scholarship is something that the university can be proud of.”

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31 comments
Glem Burnie
Sat Nov 14 2009 16:55
I heard the Classics department was in trouble so I came back to give a testimonial.
Your name
Fri Nov 13 2009 18:45
Dear Glen Burnie, as someone who graduated 26 years ago with such a fine education, what draws you back to reading this sad excuse of a newspaper?
Glen Burnie
Fri Nov 13 2009 13:31
I’m an alumnus of the University. I graduated in 1983 with a Bachelor’s in Philosophy. Ancient Greek was my undergraduate language. I never learned Latin. I wanted to read Greek because I had become enamored of Homer in my youth. I accomplished this goal of mine by reading him in the original. Some of my fondest memories of college are of sitting on the 2nd mezzanine of McKeldin Library looking out over the mall and translating Homer late into the night. Referring to an earlier post on this article I was introduced to the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius at this time as well. I appreciated the quotes from Thoreau here for they speak to my experience as well. It was worth the cost of my youthful hours to learn an ancient language. I can still recite the 1st paragraph of the Iliad. I hope that whatever the University does it does not deprive present and future students of the opportunity to sit at the feet of scholars and learn the classics.
Anonymous supporter of Classics
Fri Nov 13 2009 09:47
Fair enough, my mathematically inclined friend. I find myself frustrated that the Classics department at UMD is forced to justify its existence and independence, just as its faculty are setting a fine example for other departments through excellence in teaching and research.

I should also remind you of a fact of which I'm sure you must already be aware: the Greeks were responsible in a major way for the transition of mathematics from mere calculation to an abstract/theoretical means of examining the universe. Without Pythagoras, Euclid, and other ancient thinkers, where would mathematics be today? We study Classics because the themes of Greco-Roman literature are universal and fundamentally human. If we were to discard the ancients, we might just as well do away with English departments and their courses dealing with literature produced before the late 20th and early 21st centuries.

math
Fri Nov 13 2009 08:24
Anonymous supporter of classics, I told you, I was just stirring the pot. I thought for sure that saying "Classixxx sucks" was a dead give away that I don't really have much stake in the argument and I'm just being a d*ckwad
Your name
Thu Nov 12 2009 22:48
This sucks. I have to say that my 1st semester here at UMD has been all the more enjoyable because I absolutely adore my CLAS170 Class. I have Staley, and the man is a walking Classical Mythology book. He is amazing, and it's arguable the best class I've ever taken in any college, ever. Classics is awesome :)
Just another passerby
Thu Nov 12 2009 22:08
At the risk of being another quoter there is a better translation of the last utterance of the Delphic Oracle.
"Go tell the King: the daedal
Walls have fallen to the earth
Phoibus has no sanctuary,
No prophetic laurel, no
Speaking spring. The garrulous
Water has dried up at last."
Harry
Thu Nov 12 2009 19:43
My balls dont stink as bad as this article.
Anonymous supporter of Classics
Thu Nov 12 2009 17:53
To: the equally self-important mathematician

These are my just deserts for engaging in a flame war with you. Internet arguments are unfailingly fruitless, but while I'm here . . .

If you happened to take an introduction to mythology class or a Greco-Roman literature in translation course, and you managed to get an A, I applaud your brilliance. Congratulations on not being completely brain-dead! That's an achievement tantamount to getting an A in an Education or Kinesiology class. Incidentally, where are my kudos for getting an A in Calculus I when I was an undergraduate history major?

I might suggest that your grades in two Classics courses from your junior year of college are no in way indicative of your intelligence level. On the contrary, far more pertinent is your admission that you didn't get As in any other classes that year. BRAVO! Ah, if only I were in need of your validation to feel confident about my own intellect! Alas, I shall just have to languish while waiting in vain for your approval.

Am I arrogant? Absolutely; I do not deny it. Despite your remarks, my intelligence level has no bearing on the fact that Classics is a vital part of the history of Western civilization and culture and as such should not be given short shrift. I have yet to see you offer a cogent reason for which Classics is not an important department (save, of course, for "CLASSIXXX SUCK!!!" [sic]), and I challenge you to do so.

Your name
Thu Nov 12 2009 16:33
Oops sorry, I was just stirring the pot. It's a slow work day haha
Delphic Oracle
Thu Nov 12 2009 15:36
I'm not the same guy that quoted the other people. I thought the Delphic Oracle quote was fitting because the oracle was finished after an illustrious career just as the Classics Department now seems to be. But thanks for saying I'm not self-important or smug. I guess you can't express your thoughts very well and so don't really know what you're saying.
Your name
Thu Nov 12 2009 15:01
Congratulations on your ability to quote the writings of others!

It's like Socrates said in the second amendment to the Old Testament: "You are not self-important, smug, and not smart!!"

The Last Words of the Delphic Oracle
Thu Nov 12 2009 14:47
Tell to the king that the carven hall is fallen in decay;
Apollo has no chapel left, no prophesying bay,
No talking spring. The stream is dry that had so much to say.
Philistine math major
Thu Nov 12 2009 13:10
Why would I be bitter that I had to take classics? I told you, they were my only As. I don't want to debate how difficult classics courses are, I was just defending myself against your accusation that I was not mentally equipped to handle the rigor of classics courses.

Also, your view on your discipline is excessively grandiose and self-important. You are trying to imply that my position is "if you think classics is not an important major, then you are against art!" You put those words in my mouth.

Get over it. Classics is a pointless major and you are not as intelligent as you think you are.

Anonymous supporter of Classics
Thu Nov 12 2009 12:19
To: the philistine math major

I am guessing that you are just bitter that you had to take humanities courses while pursuing your math degree. I was required to take math and science when I was an undergrad, and I accepted that requirement as a component of a liberal education. If the administration at UMD wishes to graduate well-rounded students, it would behoove them to place as much emphasis on the humanities as on the science, engineering, math, and business disciplines. Unfortunately, the reality is that an emphasis on these other disciplines is far more likely to net lucrative grants and large donations from well-to-do alumni. The highest good produced by civilization is its art (literary and otherwise), and without an appreciation of the arts and humanities, all the technological achievements and scientific advances are meaningless.

Your name
Thu Nov 12 2009 11:42
To: Anonymous supporter of classics

I was a math major. I took two courses in classics, and they were the easiest classes I had in college. In fact they were the only two As I had my junior year, since I was taking difficult and meaningful classes in mathematics.

CLASSIXXX SUCK!!!

Anonymous supporter of Classics
Thu Nov 12 2009 10:35
It seems clear to me that these individuals who are here decrying the continuing existence of Classics at UMD are, more likely than not, students from other disciplines whose poor marks in a Classics course ruined their otherwise inflated GPAs.

"Waaaaah, I'm a finance/chem/marketing/mechanical engineering major; you can't fail me for producing mind-numbing, execrable writing! It's not my fault that I'm a slavering moron incapable of expressing a coherent thought! None of my other professors corrects me when I butcher the English language! It's no fair!!!"

By all means, correct me if I'm wrong.

Your name
Wed Nov 11 2009 17:17
I can Google the classics if I want them. Clearly no need for the department anymore.
Your name
Wed Nov 11 2009 14:55
STOP TRYING TO PROVE THE IMPORTANCE OF CLASSICS BY QUOTING CLASSICS
Henry David Thoreau
Tue Nov 10 2009 20:59
No wonder that Alexander (5) carried the Iliad with him on his expeditions in a precious casket. A written word is the choicest of relics. It is something at once more intimate with us and more universal than any other work of art. It is the work of art nearest to life itself. It may be translated into every language, and not only be read but actually breathed from all human lips; — not be represented on canvas or in marble only, but be carved out of the breath of life itself. The symbol of an ancient man's thought becomes a modern man's speech. Two thousand summers have imparted to the monuments of Grecian literature, as to her marbles, only a maturer golden and autumnal tint, for they have carried their own serene and celestial atmosphere into all lands to protect them against the corrosion of time. Books are the treasured wealth of the world and the fit inheritance of generations and nations. Books, the oldest and the best, stand naturally and rightfully on the shelves of every cottage.

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