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Pagans are Magickal

Pagan Student Union works to dispel myths

By Allison Lyons

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Published: Friday, October 23, 2009

Updated: Friday, October 23, 2009

The Pagan Student Union wants to clear the air of many myths about the Pagan religion: Pagans do not make animal sacrifices and Paganism is not a cult.

But at a panel discussion last night, the students did confirm one myth: Pagans do curse people.

“It takes a lot to get a Pagan to curse somebody,” PSU President Casey Mason-Foley said during the three-member panel discussion in Hoff Theater.

Most Pagans would only curse someone if they were threatening to harm them or their family, Mason-Foley said, adding that one of the most common misbeliefs Pagans encounter about their religion is the belief that they are Satanists.

“We don’t believe in the devil,” she said, adding that the PSU has dealt with Christian opposition. “[The] First Look Fair is always an interesting experience. We have Evangelists come to our table and tell us we are doing something wrong.”

They do, however, use magick — spelled with a “k” to differentiate between the “magic” performed by magicians and the “magick” Pagans use in their daily lives.

The panelists described magick as a force of energy, for instance, wishing stoplights would turn green and then they do.

Using magick, the PSU read Tarot cards at the Stamp All-Niter and the First Look Fair, to raise money for the Washington Animal Rescue League, rebuking the misconception that Pagans sacrifice animals.

Not all of the 15 students in attendance at the panel discussion believed in this magick.

“I think it’s luck,” freshman journalism major Matt Perison said. “ I don’t think you can put a curse on someone. Luck is a driving factor.”

Other audience members said they thought this magick was real but shouldn’t be widely-used.

“Paganism and spells should only be used unless they’re absolutely necessary,” senior biology major Neha Datta said.

Unique holidays that Pagans celebrate, such as Samhain, a holiday which honors deceased ancestors, were also explained.

To celebrate Samhain, which falls on the same day as Halloween but doesn’t involve costumes and candy, Mason-Foley said “I like to go to grave sites with my mom.”

Another unique holiday, according to the panelists, is Beltane, a celebration of sexuality.

“A lot of religions try to hide [sex] and forget that it exists,” Mason-Foley said. “It’s something to be honored.”

As a biology major, Mason-Foley said she does not have a problem balancing science and Pagan beliefs.

“I think science reinforces my faith rather than hinders it,” she said.

Freshman history major Adam Rhodes agreed.

“At the core, both science and religion spring from energy,” Rhodes said.

Dealing with negative reactions can deter people from believing in Paganism.

“It’s not easy work. It’s really not for everyone,” Mason-Foley said, though she encourages anyone interested in learning more about paganism to attend the PSU’s next meeting Oct. 30 in 1124 Jimenez from 3 to 5 p.m.

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Your name
Mon Nov 2 2009 14:03
Jamison played what one or two games in the preseason?? None in the regular season so we don't know what kind of defense he will be playing. Just like the rest of the team picked up on defense I expect the same from Jamison. If I am not mistaken, he pulled his shoulder trying to block a shot which if I can remember is playing a defense. Damn! Dude can't buy a break. Give it a few games before you break a brotha down for not playing defense. He may just surprise you. The Wizards have all the pieces needed to compete with the orlando magik.
Jen
Fri Oct 30 2009 14:43
To Christopher Blackwell,

True, reporters may have little or no background on project topics, Are you kidding me? That’s a terrible excuse for a poor work ethic. That means hit the ground running, and do your homework. I mean, don’t you think reporters bear some responsibility on the articles they submit and make available to the public? How about performing a little research? It sounds like Ms. Lyons hung out at the panel discussion, talked to a few folks and jotted down a blurb 15 minutes before deadline. Having fact sheets are important but the reporter needs to take initiative and maybe dig a little deeper.

Unfortunately, it appears that Ms. Lyons did very little work to appropriately cover the topics discussed at this panel, issues brought up by attendees and speakers, and as a result, this article reinforces myths and stereotypes surrounding Pagans and Christians alike.

"Dealing with negative reactions can deter people from believing in Paganism. " What on earth is that supposed to mean?

What is "Christian opposition"? Do all Christians oppose Paganism? Please don't squeeze all Christians into one big boat, based on comments from a few Evangelists.

At best, this article is lazy, irresponsible, and demonstrates Ms. Lyons' lack of maturity. What information reported was useless simply because Ms. Lyons gives us a Swiss cheese perspective about this religion. Is this how a religion, how a set of beliefs for a population, is treated in a public forum?

Ms. Lyons, I’m not sure if you are fully cognizant of your article’s impact. You must have forgotten that you would be addressing peoples’ religious beliefs. This is not a hobby or extracurricular activity. It saddens me to see how many were hurt and misinformed as a result of your inability to treat the subject with an ounce of respect or seriousness.

Your name
Sun Oct 25 2009 22:36
remember, only invite the press if they agree in advance to say what you want them to say in their article
Casey
Sun Oct 25 2009 11:29
Thanks Christopher, the press packet really is a great idea--I'm sure we'll be using something like that in the future.

Thanks for your ideas and your fair assessments :)

Casey
PSU president

Your name
Sat Oct 24 2009 22:31
Whoops forgot to put my name on that last post. Christopher Blackwell
Your name
Sat Oct 24 2009 22:19
As a minor reporter myself for a newsletter and as one that has been interviewed may I suggest a few things while everyone calms down.

First and foremost remember most reporters are reporting on things they may have no personal knowledge on, and they have quite varied ability, and less time to research things completely. So a press packet is a necessity if you want a chance of an accurate report. Put together the most important facts and it might help to even have a report on what the panel says. I assume most of the panelists has basic notes to work from and their main points could have been noted before the panel talked.

As for chance to look over the report before it is published. I did this with a reporter of my local paper in my home town. This prevented some of the errors, though a few did escape me. But it was a far better article on Witchcraft because I did ask. I was less worried about what slant he would give than about screw ups in basic fact.

Pagans have to learn how to work with the media if they want better results. Help them with all the basic facts laid out in your press packet, make the reporter's job a bit easier and you will begin to see better results from the reporter as well.

Yelling at the reporter about the mistakes is not going to get the reporter wanting to come interview you again, and could end up with even more unfriendly reports in the future. Again remember the reporter knows nothing about Paganism or Wicca. So next time have all the basic information on hand in a short press package and you may get a better article.

Meanwhile calm down, the old article is past. Use what you have learned to make sure the next article is more accurate. Making it easier for the reporter often means a friendlier report. Reporters are human and imperfect, just as we Pagans are.

Forgottenoceans
Sat Oct 24 2009 20:49
Is there a page two? Or is this it for the article? Does anyone know if it's a joke? I'd like to think so, I'd like to think no one would write such trash and expect it to be published for real, let alone start calling themselves a journalist after writing such a mess. It's like back in high school english and the teacher asked you to write a paper so the first thing you did was find a bunch of web sites related to your topic and start copy and pasting your way to a solid C plus. The sad part is the comments for this piece are way more interesting then anything said by Miss Lyons.
Casey
Fri Oct 23 2009 21:10
As my final comment on this online forum, I just wanted to tell everyone whose taken time to give their opinion that Pagan Student Union is trying to discuss directly with Diamondback about this article and the "Get Over It" comment. With the majority of commenters believing it to be the journalist, let me lend my deepest apologies to you Allison if it is indeed not you. We never wanted their to be a feud with you or the diamondback.

While we feel that the article left out a good amount of detail and misrepresented us, we understand that this is really easy to do, considering the nature of Paganism itself.

I ask that future commenters please keep things civil while we try to resolve with the Diamondback.

Thanks.

Casey
President of PSU

Pj Kronz (my sister is a Pagan)
Fri Oct 23 2009 19:14
This is smut.

Take out paganism, and replace it with another religion like Judaism or Christianity and this article would cause a riot. It use to be frowned upon to practice Christianity like most people frown on Paganism today. WHICH IS CRAZY, Paganism has actually been around a lot longer. Christians were forced to worship in secret until Emperor Constantine had God come and help him in a dream.He then stopped some of the suppression on the choice of religion letting people openly become Christians. To me doing something you see in a dream seems to be pretty Pagan, though i am not one, but apparently as soon as you add Jesus talking to you in a dream, when you follow it its perfectly normal and Ok to our society today.

Honestly take a step back how is praying to Jesus or God any different then what some people consider Magick. "Christians pray to God for things like The street light changing" it would be as factual as some statement in this article. I am appalled by the clear superiority people hold to religions they dont understand, The clear bias is shown in the lack of effort to this article.

I'm not saying you are any certain religion. but every religion desires the same amount of attention to detail and facts.

V. Raptor
Fri Oct 23 2009 19:04
Pardon me Allison, but Horse Crap you aren't "Get over it".

Have a nice day.

Allison Lyons
Fri Oct 23 2009 18:50
I am really sorry everyone got so upset, that was not at all my intention and I honestly didn't realize I misrepresented you. I really enjoyed coming to the panel and I just thought the article was covering a few things that happened at the panel. I did not intend my article to make any judgements about how normal any of the members are or what paganism is in general.
I am not the "Get Over It" person. I already wrote my article and my name is already out there, so why would I try to cover it up?
I really hope they publish your editorial so that your side comes through.
Allison B
Fri Oct 23 2009 18:08
Don't get all pissy if you can't take some criticism. There were three members on the panel, why did you only quote one? Clearly you didn't want to write this article, did you have to be so obvious. Clearly you have to work on your professionalism.

On another note, in your article you mentioned curses, why are you giving the panel a reason to want to curse you? And for you Casey, I love my pagan roommate.

I Love my Pagan Roommate
Fri Oct 23 2009 17:29
1. I’m pretty sure it’s a stretch calling this article “news”. Maybe if it had actually reported facts, been well written, asked intelligent questions, or presented anything other than a clearly biased opinion then you could keep defending journalistic integrity.
2. If the PSU does choose to write an editorial, I’ll read it. Guess that’s not nobody….
3. If you don’t believe in religion, fine. That’s no reason to disrespect those who do or misrepresent what they stand for.
4. The personal attacks are really uncalled for. Just because you disagree with people, that’s no excuse for being a bitch.
Mike R
Fri Oct 23 2009 15:49
Sounds fishy, Allison. If you're pissing off a large portion of the Pagan community, that's probably a good indication that you didn't manage to represent them fairly well.

I would have at least let them read over your article and offer suggestions before submitting this...

Casey
Fri Oct 23 2009 15:42
In response to "Get over it"

I NEVER said I was misquoted. I said what I said wasn't the extent of what I said. For example: "I like to go to graveyards with my mom" should have been followed by "to honor my ancestors". Stopping it where it was stopped gives the reader the influence that I just like going to graveyards.

By the by, "Get Over It", we invited the diamondback hoping that this time would be different. We wanted to give the diamond a fair shake at writing about us for once. Any GOOD journalist would have been able to see the intellectual gold mine we had last night. The panel wasn't just for journalists--it was for ANYONE interested.

Your name
Fri Oct 23 2009 15:36
@Get over it

Wow, this was obviously written by the journalist. Your comment borders religious discrimination. Don't blame them for being pagan and you had to write about it.

By the by, I think they meant you were taking things out of context--seeing as none of them said they were misquoted.

Just a casual observation "author"

Get Over It
Fri Oct 23 2009 15:13
Do you misfit bunch of girls really get bothered by what you read in the Diamondback? You all complain about what was said, but YOU'RE the ones who said it. In this BS context, "misquote" clearly means "we don't like your interpretation of what we literally said word for word." None of you are claiming you didn't say these things, just that you didn't like the focus of the article. Well, guess what, the news isn't your servant. So yes, go ahead and write an editorial explaining paganism 'correctly', not that anyone will care. And honestly, do you think ANYONE could write an article about paganism that's a tiny bit interesting AND does not upset you at all? The reason that it sounds so ridiculous is because it IS that ridiculous. For the author to make it NOT ridiculous, he/she'd not be able to mention spells, or "magick" (nice spelling), or anything other than how you worship 'nature' and the Earth blah blah. In fact, it wouldn't be wise for the author to talk about anything more detailed than spells and magick, because, as people have said here, you guys can't even agree on a specific set of practices. How could the author talk about specific Gods or anything without excluding some form of paganism?

The reason other sources were cited is clearly because you all are a little nutty, and without other sources it's called a "one source article" meaning that the only opinions are yours, which it shouldn't be because it's not a profile, its news. If you don't want misrepresentation in the news, then stop talking to the press maybe? You did CALL the 'panel' did you not?

Which brings me to the ultimate point, paganism is just as made up as any other religion, and obviously any effects due to magick are called "placebo effects." (i.e. the focusing athlete, not that any of you are athletic). This article's tone was clearly trying to be compromising, but next time either don't mention how you visit graveayrds with your mommy, or just don't talk to the press expecting everything they write to be crafted exactly to your liking.

Your name
Fri Oct 23 2009 12:38
I thought this article sounded a bit subtly one-sided, with what looked like only small fractions of larger explanations.

And then I read the comments to this article, and realized that this article is a joke. The bad part is, the author is being serious. This sounds like a gross misrepresentation of a religion.

Does the Diamondback literally publish anything people throw at them?

gorm_Sionnach
Fri Oct 23 2009 12:21
Paganism is an umbrella term for a group of religions, and not a religion in and of itself. Belief among Pagans is rather varied and one would expect it to be, considering that a number of religious traditions and groups consider themselves Pagan. Wiccans, Druids, Eclectics, Witches, Reconstructionists (Asatruars, Celtic Recons, Hellenisimos, Religio-Romana) and so on. In terms of deity recognition, it varies from group to group, ranging from pantheism to polytheism. Duotheism is a gloss that is often used, as one is almost certain to hear mention of the the God and Goddess, though it should be noted that duotheism is not something every Pagan religion acknowledges.
PSU Fan
Fri Oct 23 2009 11:58
Boo! This article sounds like something written in a 10th grade English class and just continues to make PSU members sound strange, while not addressing the stereotypes.

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