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Students post university budget online

SGA legislator downloads and circulates document, defying administrators

Published: Thursday, September 24, 2009

Updated: Friday, September 25, 2009 00:09

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Student leaders have long been frustrated by administrators' failure to make the university budget more accessible during the budget-cutting process. In response, they have posted the 900-page document online themselves.

The posting defies administrators, who have repeatedly turned down calls to put up the document, and comes three days after a top official warned that the budget contains sensitive information, such as employees' salaries.

The budget is stored in PDF and paper form at Hornbake Library, and at about 3:30 p.m. yesterday, Student Government Association legislator Kenton Stalder copied the document to a portable drive and e-mailed it to students and faculty.

The fiscal year 2010 budget was first posted online by student activist Malcolm Harris on his personal blog (24percent.wordpress.com). It is also available on the SGA's website (umdsga.com) and at diamondbackonline.com.

But even now that the budget has been posted, Stalder contends the publicly available version does not break down university spending in sufficient detail and said the SGA will be pushing administrators to publish line-by-line expenditures.

"It's really not that detailed of a budget," Stalder said. "It's 900 pages, but it's a $1.5 billion budget. Anyone looking through this current budget isn't going to really be able to get an informed idea about where money is being spent at this university."

It was partly for this reason that university President Dan Mote said posting the Hornbake document didn't make sense.

"It doesn't do you a damn bit of good when you see it," Mote said, pointing out that though the university recently decommissioned an escalator in Hornbake Library in a move estimated to save $100,000 annually, that decision wouldn't be reflected in the publicly available budget.

This budget is only published once a year, while the university's budget is, in reality, a living document constantly subject to change. In addition, the budget in Hornbake does not show line-by-line expenses, such as the escalator Mote was referring to.

What it does show are employee salaries and department expenses broken down into categories. For instance, the president's office's expenses are broken down into 22 categories, including travel, phone use and mailings.

Harris pointed out that the budget lists $4.9 million in student fees spent on outside consultants but does not list who those consultants were.

"We want to know what it is and if that's something that can be cut instead of our classes or professors' salaries," said Harris, who is also a columnist for The Diamondback.

Stalder said he hoped administrators would eventually publicize the exact documents they're using as they decide the fates of university programs.

"With the budget situation we're in, when we're furloughing our faculty, when we're cutting down programs that are important to us, it kind of ties the hands of anybody that wants to come in and make informed suggestions because we can't get the information the administration has," Stalder said. "It puts the administration in a position where they're the only ones that have the information to make an intelligent decision."

But Vice President for Administrative Affairs Ann Wylie said that the budget in Hornbake is the same budget that administrators look at when deciding on budget cuts.

She acknowledged that the budget was complicated but said students were dismissing it prematurely.

"It's 900 pages — they simply haven't studied it yet," she said.

Ironically, administrators may have given the SGA the idea to download the budget: At both a town hall meeting earlier this week and the SGA meeting Wednesday, administrators said students could easily download it and post it online.

This year, the university created a budget website that provides a broad outline of the university's revenues and expenses. If students wanted additional information, Wylie suggested, they should present the university with a Maryland Public Information Act request.

Meanwhile, Stalder said the SGA is exploring the possibility of obtaining more specific budget information from department heads.

"I just know from looking at [the Hornbake budget] that there has to be a more detailed budget out there," Stalder said.

Stalder expects to present a bill to the SGA legislature outlining further plans next week.

slivnick@umdbk.com

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Your name
Mon Oct 5 2009 12:02
To: A Parent

It's ok with you if laborers don't make a lot of money because the supply exceeds the demand, but professors should expect to make more than$80,000 in an expensive area like DC? Talk about a double standard! Do you think it''s not just as expensive for the housekeepers and groundskeepers who work at the university?

BTW, the architecture dean is not quitting; he is returning to the classroom. He probably also wants to spend more time at his architectural firm.

This bit from a recent New Yorker article captures my opinion of "publication lists as long as my arm."

' In a good article about what caused the financial crisis, John Cassidy quotes an economist:
During the past few decades, much economic research has “tended to be motivated by the internal logic, intellectual sunk capital and esthetic puzzles of established research programmes rather than by a powerful desire to understand how the economy works—let alone how the economy works during times of stress and financial instability,” notes Willem Buiter, a professor at the London School of Economics who has also served on the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee.

A Parent
Sat Oct 3 2009 15:51
Two of my son's most respected professors make ~80K (not that I should know that - I believe in privacy). They have publication lists as long as my arm. They are world renowned experts in their field. They have spent evenings and summers cultivating my son's interests. They have stayed in touch with him while on foreign work assignments. The MEDIAN income in the area is $92K. That includes laborers without an education (nothing wrong with that - it's honest work, someone's got to do it, but the supply exceed the demand). One would think that someone at the TOP of their field, in an expensive area like D.C., would expect to do better than the median --- and I would hope that their students, putting in all that time and effort getting an education --- would have the same expectations (for both themselves and their profs). Interesting article today --- third dean in one year quitting due to budget cuts. Ya gets what ya pays for. I'm willing to pay more taxes --- but our politicians don't consider that an option (and yes, I consider myself to be a conservative). Funny that, a conservative who doesn't rail against college professors, and believes that people should be fairly compensated for their labor (and that we shouldn't be saddling the next gen with the bill)???

A Parent, Signing Off This Discussion

Jimbo
Fri Oct 2 2009 15:56
No kidding, thanks for the math lesson. Now tell me if the median is 92K what is the median of those making above the median?

You think everybody should get the same$$? From ditch digger with GED to Dan Mote? OK then.

Your name
Fri Oct 2 2009 12:01
Jumbo,
Median household income means that half of the households are above the median and half ARE BELOW.
Further, this is household income, not per capita income

And, do you think there are staff living on less than $100,000 a year?
HINT: YES.

There are staff making $22,000 a year. How do you think they manage?
Or you don't care because they don't have as much edukation as the dedicated professors?

JImbo
Fri Oct 2 2009 09:29
***"You think that $100,000 in the DC area is not a lot of money.
Do you realize that there are TONS of people living on MUCH LESS? "*****

You have no idea what you are talking about. How much do your parents make?? OF course there are people making less but 100K for someone as highly trained and successful as a university faculty member, who likely has a family, is not all that much money I can assure you.

Did you know that Montgomery County has a MEDIAN houshold income of $92,000? Even in PG it is almost 70K. Lets assume for a minute that a professor should reasonably be expected to earn in the top 50% of salaries (very conservative IMO). Im MC (a more reasonable comarison) the top 50% of HH surely make well over 100K, probably in PG too though I dont have the exact stats.

I used to have the same stupid opinions when I was an UG, I can assure you your tune will change pretty quick when you get handed that diploma, or want to buy a house, or have a child.

Your name
Thu Oct 1 2009 15:27
Here's over a MILLION dollars.
I hope these people are making it ok.

Mote, C. D. JR Prof & Pres UMCP $464,600.00
Williams, Gary B. Head Coach BB $408,950.84
Yow, Deborah A. Dir of Athletics $382,574.59
Your name
Thu Oct 1 2009 15:25
You think that $100,000 in the DC area is not a lot of money.
Do you realize that there are TONS of people living on MUCH LESS?
Your name
Wed Sep 30 2009 20:50
Look at the budget - many of the best professors are making $60K (part time) to $80K. The BEST are making ~ $100K. That may sound like a lot, but in the DC area, it is not. I interview and hire fairly inexperienced people who can command better salaries than that because of the technical skills that they have acquired from these profs (and maybe can claim to have a clearance). Your profs have to bid against these people in the DC area for housing, cars, food, recreation, etc. Without tenure, I doubt you could get anyone to take the teaching jobs. (And not all have tenure.) $100K may sound like a lot to you now, but after you get out into the job/housing market in this area, let's see how you feel about it?

BTW -

Have you had a prof or two who has inspired you, or are you just putting in your time???

Your name
Wed Sep 30 2009 12:47
Professors are making only $100,00 a year after having spent so long being educated and building their expertise.
Professors could do sooo much better in the private sector.

This is such a load of equine excrement!
What else do professors get that you don't find in the private sector? TENURE. TENURE. TENURE.
AKA A job for life.

A Parent
Mon Sep 28 2009 21:24
One last note -

One characteristic of those people making the big bucks is that they are willing to submit themselves to the indignity of a polygraph --- and because they have a certain physiology, they are able to pass it. That's their primary skill...

The profs are competing with these people in the DC are for our over-inflated housing stock, and paying a premium for food, gas, and other necessities (as are the lower paid maintenance workers).

Your name
Mon Sep 28 2009 20:16
To Taxpayer:

Yep - the furloughs hurt the maintenance staff even more than the profs --- but....

Some of those profs are making $60-80K --- and are recognized experts in their field with publication lists as long as my arm. They are excellent instructors --- many have motivated my son to pursue his interests (and may inspire him to pursue his academic interests over the pursuit of wealth).

I know from personal experience that mediocre people in the DC area - with far less experience, make far more than that.

Through conversations with some, I also know that they are donating other time to do adminstrative duties which have been cut from the budget. Beleive me, these guys are not putting in 40 hours per week.

As a taxpayer, I think you can rest assured you are getting more than your money's worth from most. (There will always be one or two slackers in any field/)

I realize Maryland has a sunshine law, but still think we can deal with knowing about what an associate prof or full prof makes, without getting down to the penny on every single employee. You sound like a conservative (so am I) - and I believe in a right to privacy. I also believe in noting it when public servants are doing a bang-up job.

Your name
Mon Sep 28 2009 12:23
Don't ask me to feel sorry for professors if they make the choice to remain in academia for "only" $100,000+ a year plus tenure. It's their choice. Must be nice, even in the midst of a recession, with people losing their jobs left and right, to not even have to think about the possibility that you might be fired.
Your name
Mon Sep 28 2009 11:13
Wow this guy is crazy. Making $100,000 when you have invested probably twice that in your education and carry that debt, is not really that much, especially considering for example that a business professor making $100,000 could probably make four times that in the private sector depending on his field.
Your name
Mon Sep 28 2009 09:05
@Terp "Tax Payer - You have no respect for people who decide to work to try to help better society by becoming professors rather than caring only about themselves. If all of the professors who could do better in the private sector went there, you'd have a pathetic shell of a campus. You should be thankful that they try to help the state and the nation by trying to educate so many of its future workers and thinkers and leaders."

Give me a break. Don't you dare lecture us about this ridiculous nobility of academia. I'm sick of professors being treated as if they're somehow a combination of Mother Teresa and Ghandi, giving up some plush life, bathing in hundred dollar bills, if they could only bring themselves to leave this Spartan hell of university life. If the vast majority of these fools ever tried to leave academia for the private sector they'd be laughed out into the street, if they didn't quit first over the hours.

These folks are making six figures and more, with benefits and perks and revered status, with absolute power over thousands of developing minds and the reassurance that can only come within the groupthink of a university in America. And for the most part, they cannot be fired. Ever.

Let them quit, let them try to find a job in the private sector that will pay them anywhere near what they make here. In the meantime, there are tons of folks out there who would be overjoyed to find a position paying half what these professors make in the cushy environs of a university.

Terp
Sun Sep 27 2009 21:59
To "Tax Payer" - you are a moron. You have no respect for people who decide to work to try to help better society by becoming professors rather than caring only about themselves. If all of the professors who could do better in the private sector went there, you'd have a pathetic shell of a campus. You should be thankful that they try to help the state and the nation by trying to educate so many of its future workers and thinkers and leaders.
Tax Payer
Sun Sep 27 2009 20:21
To: A Parent

I have a perfect right to know how my tax dollars are spent even when they go to high salaries for dedicated professors.
IF most of the profs could do better in the private sector then why don't they go do just that?
And what about the staff, like the housekeepers who clean the toilets the esteemed professors use?
If a furlough for a prof making $100,000 - and there are many who make far more-- stinks, what about a furlough for a housekeeper making $22,000? That should do more than stink, that should shame the university administrators.

A Parent
Sat Sep 26 2009 17:29
I'm a parent of a student - all in favor of transparency -- but not sure that people's salaries should be published. Ought to be a way to anonymize the info. That being said, I've seen comments attached to other articles complaining about the "high" salaries of the various staff members. I've got news for you --- most, including my son's favorite professors, could do much better in the private sector. Their dedication to academia and their students is to be commended --- and unpaid furloughs stink. I hope that those outstanding educators are able to supplement their salaries with research grants and/or some consulting on the side. They certainly are not being fully reimbursed for the years they've spent acquiring their expertise.
Your name
Fri Sep 25 2009 10:29
To the "alumnist" - the university still publishes the salary guide every year during the spring semester...obviously you didn't get the spelling education you should have while you were at the university...
Your name
Fri Sep 25 2009 10:18
Three cheers for the students!
Your name
Fri Sep 25 2009 09:22
I am an alumnist and when I was at UMCP, the Diamondback used to publish the salaries of the ENTIRE staff (from President all the way down to the custodial staff) every year. What happened? Why don't they do this now????? The campus muzzling the press or does the press not have the backbone to put this out there?

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